Monthly Archives: October 2012

Some drinking expressions explained, (Historical)

Some drinking expressions explained.

There is an old Hotel/Pub in Marble Arch, London which used to have gallows adjacent.

Prisoners were taken to the gallows (after a fair trial of course) to be hung.

The horse drawn dray, carting the prisoner was accompanied by an armed guard, who would stop the dray outside the pub and ask the prisoner if he would like ”ONE LAST DRINK”.

If he said YES it was referred to as “ONE FOR THE ROAD”

If he declined, that prisoner was “ON THE WAGON”

Editorial Note:-Choose your words carefully.

Government washes hands of self-regulation deal

Government washes hands of self-regulation deal over pubco-tenant relationship

View 21 posts By Michelle Perrett, Contact the editor, 17-Oct-2012

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The Government  would appear to has washed its hands of the self-regulation deal to govern the pubco-tenant relationship, claiming all the commitments made “have now been achieved”.

We now have another expert in Pubs and the Industry controlling the future of the English Pub, when did she go to grass roots to establish the truth, a beer in the bar at Westminster or a passing word with the Parliamentary Beer Club members, sponsored by one or some of the major pub co’s allegedly, very cosy.

Swinson: Refused an interview request over the self-regulation deal by the PMA.

Last week, the new minister in charge of monitoring the deal, Jo Swinson, snubbed requests for an interview with the Publican’s Morning Advertiser.

She took the role of parliamentary under-secretary of state for employment relations and consumer affairs from former minister Norman Lamb in the recent Cabinet rehuffle.

Last year the Government failed to implement the Business, Innovation & Skills Committee (BISC) recommendation of a statutory code, instead saying the current industry framework code will be strengthened and made legally binding.

This goes directly against the BISC findings, which many of us made serious and truthful submissions to.

It also agreed that a Pub Independent Conciliation Advisory Service (PICAS) and Pubs Advisory Service (PAS) would be launched.

In an email to the PMA, the Department for Business, Innovation & Skills (BIS) said: “This isn’t an area appropriate for a BIS minister to interview on.”

It added: “The commitments made in the Government’s statement last November have been achieved. Version five of the code, the version that was committed to in the response, was agreed and made legally binding towards the end of last year.

“An independent PAS has been set up and PICAS was established and has now heard its first case, finding in favour of the tenant.”

However, the Government department is still insistent that the agreement for a Pubs Advisory Service has been fulfilled – despite the Publican’s Morning Advertiser pointing out that the organisations involved are still working to finalise this part of the deal.

In May, some trade experts set up their own Pubs Advisory Service. They did not consult the trade organisations involved in the self-regulation agreement and it was thought there was likely to be confusion. The BII is working with the Federation of Licensed Victuallers Associations and other trade bodies to offer new licensees access to a PAS.

Currently, the latest version of the framework code — version six — has still to be endorsed by all of the organisations involved.

Adrian Bailey, chairman of the BISC, said: “I am astonished the minister has refused to speak to the trade press about a key issue that has involved the BIS department and its predecessors over many years.

“If everything in the garden is as rosy as the department claims I would have expected her to take the opportunity to demonstrate it. She must understand that this will not go away until my select committee and Parliament is satisfied that the issues raised in the BISC report have been resolved.”

All-Party Parliamentary Save the Pub Group chairman and MP Greg Mulholland has written to Business Secretary Vince Cable who is Swinson’s boss and Swinson herself, asking for an investigation into the department’s officials.

Mulholland said: “These comments from BIS officials are yet more cause for embarrassment. To try to claim that this issue is now resolved would be laughable if it were not so appalling, and will ast-onish pubco tenants across the country who continue to suffer as pubcos take more than is fair or sustainable from pub turnover. They show officials don’t know what is going on with the so-called reforms, which is a dereliction of duty.”

The Campaign for Real Ale’s (CAMRA’s) head of public affairs, Jonathan Mail, said the move was a “substantial misjudgement”.

He said: “It sounds as if officials haven’t been monitoring it effectively. There was a Parliamentary debate on the issue this year that said the Government should commission an independent review. So is the new minister rejecting the will of Parliament?”

Nigel Williams, chief executive at the Federation of Licensed Victuallers Associations (FLVA), urged Swinson to monitor the agreement. “We are afraid that if there is not pressure from the Government, the process will stall,” he said.

The British Beer & Pub Association said “good progress” was being made with the Association of Licensed Multiple Retailers, FLVA and BII (British Institute of Innkeeping) and other organisations on the revised version of the code.

Taken from the PMA with amendments

Regulations relating to the Late Night Levy and Early Morning Restriction Orders

 Late Night Levy and Early Morning Restriction Orders

  • Date: 12/10/2012
  • Source: Poppleston Allen
  • Author/Solicitor: Andy Grimsey


Regulations relating to the Late Night Levy and Early Morning Restriction Orders have been published today to come into force on 31st October 2012.

The Late Night Levy (Expenses, Exemptions and Reductions) Regulations 2012 provide confirmation of the exemption and reduction categories permitted where a levy is applied in a Licensing Authority area.

There are no real surprises on the exemption categories:

• Hotels (for residents staying at the hotel and only for consumption on the premises)

• Theatres (for ticket holders, performers or staff, or guests to private events)

• Cinemas (for ticket holders or guests invited to a private event)

• Bingo halls

• Community amateur sports clubs

• Community premises

• Public houses entitled to rural rate relief

• Participants in business improvement districts (BIDs) but only BIDs which are established for ‘relevant purposes’. This would require one of the purposes of the BID to result in, or likely be to result in, the reduction or prevention of crime and disorder in connection with the supply of alcohol between midnight and 6am

• Licensed premises which supply alcohol in the early hours on New Year’s Eve (but at no other time).

The Licensing Authority has full discretion whether to exempt any or all of the above categories, or to require such Licence Holders to pay the Levy.

So far as permitted reduction categories go, any ‘relevant arrangement’ which is established for relevant purposes (see above), requires its members to take steps to promote those relevant purposes, and contains provision for the cessation of the membership of a member who has failed to take those steps will be entitled to a reduction if the Licensing Authority so chooses. This means that active members of Pubwatch, Best Bar None and similar best practice schemes can hope to achieve a reduction of 30% in the Levy amount, if the Licensing Authority imposes a levy and chooses to exercise its discretion to apply such a reduction. Therefore BIDs , Best Bar None, Pubwatch and other such schemes may need to consider and possibly amend their existing constitutions to ensure that they comply with the crime and disorder purpose – either to qualify for an exemption (BIDs) or a reduction (other schemes).

The 30% is a fixed amount – this will mean that Licence Holders will only have to be a member of one of their Licensing Authority’s preferred best practice schemes to benefit from a full 30% reduction (although there may of course be good reasons to remain members of other schemes).

The other permitted reduction category is certain licensed premises which are entitled to small business rate relief. A Licence Holder who is entitled to small business rate relief and is a member of a preferred best practice scheme will still only benefit from a 30% reduction.

The Licensing Act 2003 (Early Morning Alcohol Restriction Orders) Regulations 2012 confirm that where a Licensing Authority proposes to make an EMRO it must allow a minimum period of 42 days for representations to be made. It must also advertise its proposal on its website, on a notice ‘in the area which will be affected by the EMRO and in a manner which is likely to bring the proposal to the attention of persons who have an interest in it’, in a local newspaper (although this could be on the 41st day) and by sending a letter to all Premises Licence Holders, Club Premises Certificate Holders and holders of Temporary Event Notices who may be affected by the EMRO.

Interestingly, although normally licensing hearings are expected to occur on consecutive days the existing Hearings Regulations have been amended to allow Licensing Authorities to adjourn a hearing to consider any representations made by a party to the hearing or in the public interest. At the end of the hearing for an EMRO the Authority must make its decision within 10 working days. The hearing itself must commence no later than 30 working days after the 42 day representation period has ended.

The Licensing Authority must, no later than 7 days after making its decision send a copy of the EMRO to all Licence Holders affected by the decision and by publishing the EMRO on its website and in the EMRO area.

The following types of premises will not be subject to an EMRO if it applies:

• Hotels and comparable premises (i.e. guests houses, lodging houses or hostels) where, during the hours of midnight to 6am sales of alcohol can only be made to persons staying at the premises for consumption in their rooms either by room service or by virtue of mini bars.

• Licensed premises which supply alcohol in the early hours only on New Year’s Day.

We will update you once the full implications of these Regulations have been considered.

The Regulations can be found here:

This has to be the best line I’ve heard from my BDM to date.

BDM’s latest advice for departing lessees

This has to be the best line I’ve heard from my BDM to date, (name and Pub Co with held, for obvious reasons)

“Please don’t give away too much info to the regulars – if they think that there is no good tenant to follow you they will probably start looking to drink elsewhere before you leave…and I don’t want your trade to be affected. I am confident we will find someone, but the less damage to your business the better”

What he means is, dont scupper the chances of the relief managers making as much money for us as you do.

My BDM is an OK guy, but I really do think he thinks im an idiot sometimes! 🙂

Note:-His statement infers that the tenant is a good tenant, yet the Pub Co are driving them out????

When will these Pub Co’s learn, they are destroying the good operators, to be replaced by rank novices, to get short term cash, no consideration is given to long term success and growth.

Freedom to Choose, monthly News Letter, always an interesting read.

   Freedom to Choose,   October Newsletter

The anomalies of the smoking policies worldwide

Posted: 15 Oct 2012 01:00 PM PDT

In this month’s issue:

  • From the Chairman: Baby It’s Cold Outside
  • Andrew Lansley and Anne Milton sacked
  • The Scottish Petition: deadline 22 October
  • Bad Pun month: Stoptober and Octabber
  • F2C AGM and Committee 2012-13
  • News in brief
  • F2C Articles and official Blog
  • Round the Blogs
  • The Last Word


Summer is over and those smokers who were tempted to visit the pub on a warmer day now have their minds made up for them.

The good news is that plans to introduce minimum priced alcohol seem dead in the water, thanks to the European Union, and smokers can drink at home with a clearer, cheaper conscience.

The British Beer and Pub Association say that 6,000 pubs, 25 a week, are predicted to be closing in the next 5 years and the one factor that could stem or even reverse the closures – ventilated smoking rooms – is not even on the agenda. The Scottish petition (see news article below) asks for a review of the regulations in the light of research information on modern methods of ventilation.

My 2 bottles for £8 of Echo Falls, sipped at home with the central heating on, seem a far better prospect than £3.20 a pint in the freezing cold.

Dave Atherton, October 2012


Not outdoor smoking weather…


In a Government reshuffle last month, Andrew Lansley (Health Secretary) and Anne Milton (Public Health Minister) were sacked and replaced by Jeremy Hunt, who voted against the 2007 smoking ban, and Anna Soubry, a newcomer to the House of Commons.

Never again will we have the pleasure of seeing this picture:


Anne Milton and Deborah Arnott: friends no more



It’s not too late to sign PE 01451, Petition to the Scottish Parliament review of smoking ban (open for signatures until 22 October).

You don’t have to live in Scotland to sign it.

This petition is put forward by Freedom to Choose (Scotland). It points out the problem of ambient air pollution in everyday environments, which should be the real focus of any concern for clean air. Making a huge fuss about the alleged dangers of secondary smoke and then applying the smoking ban, is a sop, leading people to believe that the problem of ambient pollution no longer exists, meanwhile ruining many recreational venues and disrupting social lives. Challenge the nonsense that there is ‘no safe level of secondary smoke’. Read more here.




It’s bad pun month…

The Government spent lots of money running a campaign – ‘Stoptober’ – to get smokers to quit for the month of October. Unfortunately, according to recent research, most smokers are ignoring the campaign.

Pat Nurse and other pro-choicers fought back with ‘Octabber’. Read all about it here.

F2C AGM and COMMITTEE 2012-13

A very successful and lively AGM was held in London on 1 September.

Members of the Executive Committee elected for 2012-13 are: Dave Atherton (Chairman), David Bunn, Carol Cattell (Secretary), Belinda Cunnison (Treasurer), Andy Davis, Pete Jackson (Membership Secretary), Tony Ward,  and John Watson.

Below is a picture of some of the AGM attendees taking a break from business.


Beware Greeks bearing .gifs (in-joke)



UK Government ‘Nudge Unit’ sells behavioural expertise to Australia. “Ministers said the unit had saved taxpayers money and showed the UK was a world leader in behavioural change.”

Doctors don’t always know best. Student claims he cured debilitating bowel disease by taking up smoking.

Couples who smoke to be banned from IVF treatment.

Sadly it seems that in a Lebanon now you can publicly flaunt a smoking gun but no longer brandish a cigarette or a shisha pipe!

The original pub that Eastenders’ Queen Vic was based on is due to close.

Yet another Club closes with the smoking ban mentioned as a cause.

Over one-third of the UK’s remaining pubs and bars are at risk of closing, according to recent research.

US court blocks graphic cigarette warnings.

U-turns on non-smoking policies in hospital grounds. These indecently cruel policies have just been reversed by Bradford Royal Infirmary, and by the University Hospital of North Staffordshire.


Breaking News: Lansley Out, Hunt In. Some great comments.

Smokers’ Rights and the Royal Hunt of the Sun.  A good rant, also with good comments.

If You Sign Nothing Else This Year…  The Scottish Petition. You have signed, haven’t you?

The October Revolution: Octabber

Minimum Alcohol Pricing Shelved in Scotland  Hot news just in, which we are celebrating.



…which we are celebrating…


Jay of Nannying Tyrants takes a break from his excellent research stuff and has a rant about how older smokers are treated.

Pat Nurse of Tea and Cigarettes treats us to her version of Gardeners’ World.

Dave Atherton of Lifestyle Reviews casts a jaundiced eye over the Sham Plain Packs Consultation and Andrew Black.

Dick Puddlecote features Steve Baker MP’s questions to Government departments about funding charities and ‘government lobbying government’. Steve Baker himself replies favourably in the comments.

Smoking Hot of Nothing 2 Declare also takes a short break from their excellent cross-border shopping and legal advice to declare that He Is A Man. With great photo and stomping blues music.

As ever, the good blog writers are too numerous to mention. We’ll try to feature some lesser-known ones next time.


“People who are always taking care of their health are like misers who are hoarding a treasure which they have never spirit enough to enjoy.”

Laurence Sterne



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St Austell Brewery chooses CPL as training partner

St Austell chooses CPL as training partner


West Country brewer and retailer St Austell has entered a partnership agreement with Merseyside-based CPL Training to ensure its members of staff are trained to the highest standard. The partnership is part of a two-stage programme that aims to raise service standards together with instructing staff on licensing law and the numerous statutory requirements involved in running a pub.


At the centre of the programme is CPL’s e-learning suite of online courses, which will be rolled out across St Austell’s 25 strong managed estate. Shelley Tookey, company training and developments manager at St Austell, said the programme is due to start by the end of October. It will be open to up to 800 members of staff in the managed houses as well as elements being available to around 400 people employed in other aspects of the business, including the brewery.


She added: “People will have access to around 22 courses, of which some will be mandatory depending on what their job entails. The aim is that every new employee completes their induction and compliance training within six weeks. It then depends on their role, but our aim is to have every front-of-house employee trained in the basic requirements of health and safety and food safety. There are no barriers to the number of courses that people can take if they want to develop their career.”


The courses are based on a modular format. Typically, an employee would sign in for two or three sessions per week, each lasting no longer than around 90 minutes, until the training is completed. 


Tookey said St Austell was particularly attracted to two of CPL’s courses that are based on Cask Marque guidance, Bar Excellence and Cellar Management, which will help train employees on the correct way to serve drinks, keep cask and keg beers.


The CPL package will also include face-to-face training where appropriate and back office services that will allow St Austell’s managers to track and audit all online training. Tookey said the ultimate aim is to link other packages into the system such as details about the company’s policies and procedures, supplying staff with product information, and access to the scheme that rewards staff for achieving high rates of customer satisfaction.


The second part of the partnership agreement involves CPL being responsible for administrating APLH exams for people seeking their personal licence for people seeking their personal licence qualification. St Austell runs a training centre in its own right and this will continue to coach candidates in the requirements needed to obtain a personal licence.


Every year, the training centre handles between 700 and 800 applications for personal licences with the vast majority from people working in pubs, restaurants and bars that are not part of the St Austell estate. The centre also runs courses in conjunction with the Wine & Spirit Education Trust, the British Institute of Innkeeping, and Cornwall College.


David Dasher, managing director of CPL’s e-learning division, said: “St Austell is renowned for its high levels of staff training and customer satisfaction and we are proud to be involved in helping the company to improve standards further. The programme is a significant investment in time and money by the company and shows its commitment to developing careers for members of staff as well as increased customer service.”

So much for the people behind 24 hour licensing laws

Politician admits to being wrong, with hindsight.

It would appear from the press to-day that the leading figure, Dame Sally Powell, behind New Labours ideas for 24 hour licensing has now been done for drinking and driving for the second time.

The first occasion was at the time when these changes were going through, the second very recently.

With hindsight and the experience of two D.D. convictions, she feels 24 hour drinking was not a wise move.

Tell that to all the licensees running decent pubs, who now work even greater hours for the same or considerably less than previously.

The sad thing is that people only have the same amount of money to spend week and all they do is come out later or you have the price war in towns and the resultant binge drinking.

When will politicians listen to the people at the coal face and not the overpaid mouthpieces who never get their hands wet let alone dirty.



The industry has had so much Government interference over many years, the result being the mess the industry is in now